haha pre-installed vendor garbage go brrrrr

My god, ISP email service. I know some stragglers have their email address still where I come from, but all that was migrated to a third party email provider instead. ISP email service.

Boy, that brings back memories.

Because, as always, the poor are kept poor and the rich are kept rich.

Is it because some of those fees are bullshit fees that target tech-ilitirate people?

This is the contentious part and also why I left Fedora.

Don’t get me wrong, you’ll be hard pressed to find a better community, better support or even a more innovative bunch. Besides RedHat’s involvement, Fedora has been in the vanguard for desktop technologies like PipeWire, Flatpaks, Wayland, heck they were one of the first to push systemd.

But my problem is that since RedHat holds sway over the Fedora leadership we cannot guarantee that the community will have the users best interests at heart.

So when people say “use a community distro”, they mean a non-captured one.

And again; Fedora is awesome, the community is awesome, been using it for years, but switched to NixOS like a month ago because I don’t trust the direction RedHat/IBM is taking Fedora.

Most likely they’ll push some of these projects to Fedora, make them maintain the projects, then some years down the line sell those projects as apart of their service.

There is a conflict of interest here and a clear opportunistic angle. RedHat wants to use the Fedora community as a free of charge testing grounds, in effect creating a userbase of free QA testers for future software.

This is predatory, it is an insult to the community, but the community is captured, and therefore will play ball with RedHat. This is the problem. If the community would give some assurances and protections, that would be nice, but so far it seems the Fedora community is more than willing to play ball with IBM/RedHat.

Seems like a lot of these “performance enhancing features” simply ignored security principles or tried to sidestep them, only for the features to introduce glaring security hole in the overall ISA, forcing people to then sidestep the supposed performance features so that it never mattered to begin with.

Are Intel, AMD and others pulling a fast one on us for the sake of gaining positive benchmarks?

@autotldr@lemmings.world

Another fríggin’ Ubuntu distro. Can’t somebody just commit to Debian instead… please?

Meanwhile, in NixOS land:

I’m going to found a user community for it! I’m kind of cooky, so I’ll name it “the church of LDS”. Surely nothing litigious will happen.

Jokes aside, great work :)

Reject modernity. Return to Debian.

See, the thing that pisses me off and is the reason why I moved away from Fedora (Silverblue) about a week ago is that Fedora is the base of RHEL. Future RHEL’s will be based off Fedora. The community therefor is providing free development for their pricey enterprise solution.

Now they’re adding insult to injury by wanting to enable telemetry metrics on the by default, claiming that the user has to opt in to report anything, but the fact is that the ordinary user might be paying that much attention. Sometime after the EULA might change and all that tasty dara will probably be harvested.

This is the threat of it. The Fedora community has been one of the best, if not the best Linux distribution community out there. Now RedHat/IBM is sowing the seeds of distrust and will in all likelihood transform Fedora into a husk of its former self, much like Cannonical did to Ubuntu.

It’s becoming such a drag to see that these corporate entities are turning tail and taking their community projects in the same direction as Microsoft, Google and Apple.

Musk uses “piss off users”.

It hurt itself in the confusion.

Not a problem :) just answer directly next time. In any case:

It’s not that they became the biggest contributors out of nowhere you know. It’s not like they did it out the love in their heart and because of ideal, morals and ethics. It was seeing the writing on the wall and not wanting to be left behind. Remember both Microsoft and Oracle tried to sue various Linux distributions and the kernel maintainers themselves because they claimed that they or one of their subsidiaries had intellectual property that Linux was using - which was patantly false (pun intended).

In modern times they push to prevent moving away from GPL2 to something like GPL3 because they’ve already gamed the license - especially Oracle, which allows them to contribute back as little as possible, and they couldn’t have done that if they weren’t benefactors and members of the Linux Foundation.

Some would even say Microsoft’s “embrace, expand & extinguish” tactic is still well and alive to this very day. And we’re talking about the company that has a history of hidden licensing fees.

In any case, I guess SuSE is more trustworthy than all of them - again because of historical presedence. But I’m still sceptical!

In regards to Microsoft, IBM and Oracle? I’m cynnical. But it’s deserved cynicism, because of the afformentioned historical presedence.

I’m not saying that people, organizations, companies, corporations, governments, multinationals, etc can’t reform… buuuut… yeah. All of these companies have a horrible history of patent wars and subverting consumers, as well as open source projects. Soooo… yeeeeeaaaah…

Also, you never answered my question. You merely dismissed it.

Oracle, IBM, Microsoft. It’s called market precedent. What’s to prevent a major corporation owned by a venture capital company to turn around and do the same thing years down the line? What to prevent them from making this “open source community” beholden to members of the board from said corporation, similar to Fedora?

“Idk man”. Conjecture can be tempered by experience. Remember that.

Sigh… Guess we gotta copyright the human body and face. I fucking hate this timeline.

…but why trust SuSE? I want to leave RedHat as well, but wouldn’t be going to SuSE just set up conditions for the same thing to happen again? Is SuSE more trustworthy than RedHat, and if so, why?

“Listen, this sun… whatever the hell it thinks it is, is coming to ruin your life. Now I propose you not only subsidize building the sun blocker, but also pay us monthly fees afterwards to prevent this sinful ball of devilish fire from ruining your life…”

Some board room somewhere, probably…

I’m convinced it’s just Shuttleworth with remote shell access to your system via the official snapd package and he’s just installing stuff for the hell of it.

Little did ikiru realise he was forshadowing the future, as the abuse would be found to be more identifiable than fingerprints or facescans - and as RATM played their last show ever in 2025 Ikiru would spread them, as per the dictates of the almighty Ticketmaster.

All hail the Ticketmaster.