To add to everything else mentioned, many places (schools, workplaces) don’t allow any usage of BitTorrent, even legal. A guy at my uni got yelled at for torrenting a Linux iso. Not to mention depending on where you live your ISP might be interested in that activity unless you’re using a vpn.
Users think the way they do because of what they’ve gotten used to in decades of Windows or Mac usage. Commands don’t HAVE to be foreign, I genuinely think people starting out with computers would be perfectly capable of learning the basics just like they learn what a file explorer or a web browser is. Someone advanced enough to install a different OS in the first place would especially benefit from this. We’re fighting over nothing anyway, you can use many modern Linux distros without ever touching the CLI.
Also, massive cringe discarding someone with a different opinion as a “tech cultist”.
Just out of curiosity, are you on Windows? If yes, I get why you’d think the CLI is archaic and a hindrance, it’s a terrible experience there. Whole other story on Linux and Mac though. As one example I personally think “sudo apt install name-of-program” is just a more straightforward and easier experience than browsing an app store or downloading an installer. I don’t mean to be an evangelist, it’s fine to stick to what works for you, but just because you’re used to one way of doing things doesn’t mean it’s the only good way.
Kind of, but why? I understand why the CLI is intimidating to a newbie but it’s not some arcane magic for leet haxxorz, but a poweful tool that everyone can learn to use. We Linux users weren’t born knowing how to use it just like a Windows user wasn’t born knowing how to use Control Panel. It’s a different way of working with a computer, but with patience and learning it will become a useful asset, I can’t imagine using a computer without it now.
Try running a stable distro without them
Arch mentioned btw
Probably because it’s not as flashy as Discord
I see no “hostility” and “talking down” here. You shouldn’t be running GUI programs with sudo, and the fact that you’ve been using Linux for X amount of years doesn’t change that.
Unless you have very niche needs or choose to tinker, everything just works.
That’s something Windows used to do a lot, right? I remember the old HDDs were always noisiest under Windows
CLI:
GUI:
It was meant to be a joke… viruses are MEANT to be downloaded by their creators, but nobody would actually want to do that
You wouldn’t download a virus
Piracy is THEFT
Oh boy. I definitely started with Ubuntu 17.04 in 2017 when I started uni, then soon downgraded to 16.04 because Unity was soooo much better than Gnome. But afterwards it’s a blur, I was distrohopping basically every few months, sometimes even more often. I used Antergos (RIP), Manjaro, all flavors of Ubuntu except Gnome, Mint, then I was into the whole minimalistic tiling wm suckless no-systemd rabbit hole with Void, I also did KDE Neon at some point, I definitely did pure Arch as well, and Artix too. Sometimes I even hopped at work when I had a bit more time. God I miss those days…
Right now I’ve settled on Mint for work and Endeavor for personal use and haven’t hopped for over a year which is as long as I’ve ever gone. I miss hopping but I’m so comfy right now. I’ve been thinking about finally giving Gentoo a go full time as I’ve been flirting with the idea forever. And there’s also Nix. And I’ve been meaning to try a system where I fully embrace flatpak (right now I never use it). I’d also like to try something like Qubes eventually. So yeah, plenty to see still after all these years.
Well, when you’re an experienced Linux user it’s kind of predictable what effect each answer will have on the outcome.
I love btw how Arch, a supposedly brittle and unstable distro, is one of the few that you can actually run for this long without ever reinstalling, on desktop at least. Not having to worry about LTS releases, end of life etc because you essentially always automatically have the latest version is so great.
I can recommend Mint, it’s fantasically easy and stable, but take a look at https://distrochooser.de
Gentoo because while it was fun to try I sure as hell won’t be waiting around for my stuff to compile.
Assetto Corsa works? I haven’t managed to get it running at all yet (unlike ACC which works beautifully), did you do any tweak?
I got into it when I started university and we started using Linux for a few programming classes. My dad helped me set up a dual boot as he had been a Linux user for a decade at this point, and I had used it for some time as well but had to switch to Windows for MS Office bullshit for school and games.
At this point it was kind of cool to use a different OS but I honestly wasn’t much impressed, mainly because of the UI which I later learned was Gnome 3 - Ubuntu had just ditched Unity, but of course I didn’t know anything about this yet.
Then I took my first internship where the first thing we did was install Linux on our computers, and the installer they gave us was Ubuntu 16.04 with the Unity desktop - which I LOVED, holy shit it was amazing, so much better than Gnome 3, and miles better than Windows. The first weeks of the internship were basically purely education, among other things an in-depth intro to Linux, command-line tools and such, and I think this was key - not being alone in the process was very important, and I’m not sure if or when I would have made the full switch without this. I started distro hopping in my free time and loved every moment of it.
This was also coincidentally when gaming on Linux really started taking off with Proton etc, so after experimenting with it, I finally ditched Windows completely and made the full switch in I think 2019, about a decade after my first encounter with Linux, and 2 years after I started using it regularly.
I wouldn’t consider myself an evangelist by any means, I won’t bring the topic up unless asked, but I will recommend taking a look and experimenting in a VM to anyone with an ounce of technical know-how. Furthermore, I think every programmer should be using Linux (yes, literally) unless it’s impossible or too painful in their case - which I think is not many cases.
Okay, I ended up typing a novel but fuck it I’m leaving it here because I loved writing this way too much.
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