Yeah, I don’t blame you not wanting to commit to a hub if you’d only have this thermostat.
Depending on what features you want maybe you could find an offline one with those features built in. I know there’s ones with schedules and presence detection that are fully offline.
I’ve used this zwave thermostat for a few years now and it’s done fine. Only really makes sense if you already have a Z-wave compatible hub though.
Was looking into getting one of these a few weeks ago when I thought my neato had finally kicked the bucket. After dealing with neato servers for 4 years local control was a must so I stumbled across valetudo and was instantly sold on the idea. Turns out the neato was easily fixable so I’m gonna squeeze some more life out of that first.
I did see a lot of complaints about the mops not getting raised up and leaving trails behind it when it returns to it’s base. Has that been a big issue for you or is it overblown?
Absolutely, if full local control is what you want and you expect to get more devices then it’s worth either reusing an old computer for home assistant or getting a home assistant yellow.