You haven’t even made a case to rest.

Remember what I said about hearsay? Everything in Fedora is FOSS, everything in RHEL is also FOSS (because it’s in CentOS Stream). All the code is released, not behind a “paywall”. All that Red Hat have done is make it more difficult for companies to sell a 1:1 “bug for bug compatible” RHEL clone - those are the “free loaders” being spoken of and who they’re targeting, not the Linux community, it’s people like Oracle (who incidentally are also the ones fanning the flames of this drama).

I’m no fan of Canonical, but even with your description you’re really sensationalising things there as well. The point is by supporting Debian you’re inadvertently supporting Canonical - I don’t think that’s a problem myself but it seems you have double standards.

Not how open source works, you don’t get to choose who benefits from it, it’s for anyone who wants to use it. Ubuntu is downstream of Debian is it not?

First of all you’ve swallowed the myth that Fedora users are beta testing for Enterprise software. That said discouraging people from voluntarily beta testing is bad for the community and fundamentally against the spirit of open source.

As a long-time Fedora user I think Red Hat’s backing is good for Fedora because it means they have a solid source of funding. Apart from the resources that gives them, that way they can be entirely user-centric and not be tempted to sell user data, run ads or anything else against the users’ interests.

There’s a lot of hearsay going on around Red Hat at the moment, some of it has grains of truth, some of it has been distorted beyond fact, I’m sorry that you’re a victim of it.

Try not to believe everything you read by random people online, Red Hat pays people to work on Fedora, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

If they have zero users, they’ll eventually stop the Fedora project

That would be a very sad loss.

There’s an argument for having them spread out, so there’s not a sinole point of failure.

Good on them to have stuck to their principles. For what it’s worth I messaged the mods over there asking them nicely to give us a link here. You can only ask.

The thing about that is everyone believes the way they don’t pronounce it is the posh way.

Where I grew up, calling it skon would get you labelled posh.

I now think a duck would be the funniest. Obviously, the ultimate “middle-finger” to the old regime.

while the US seems to prefer lemmy.ml, lemmy.world or beehaw.org

Of those I think only beehaw.org is US-based isn’t it? lemmy.ml and lemmy.world are European (I forget where, and I don’t really care so there’s no need to tell me).

What I observed over the years in that Other Place is that communities could be more-or-less self-regulating until they reached a critical size - after that they would have to either be heavily moderated or turn to crap. We’re nowhere near that size here, and perhaps we’ll never be (which is not necessarily a bad thing).

Really thinking about investing in one of those ~£300 air conditioning units for home next year, as summers seem to keep getting worse, anyone tried those?

I’m not keen on the idea, air conditioning makes it feel even hotter when you go outside - and who wants to sit around inside on a hot day?