• betwixthewires@lemmy.basedcount.com
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    10 months ago

    I find it funny, you talk about freedom, Europeans will defend their governments as free, shit on the US, defend government power in the name of protecting the public, but then, preemptively jailing people, like previous authoritarian states of Europe would do, and they’re all surprised pikachu face. I doubt they’ll ever get it, Europeans are lemmings.

    Except the French. The French light shit on fire when their government displeases them.

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      10 months ago

      This is generalising a bit much done you think? This is like saying all US states are the same, but more outrageous as they’re completely separate countries with different cultures, languages, and governments

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        10 months ago

        well, you have a history of authoritarianism and warrantless detention in many, many European countries, the US is all entirely subject to the US constitution which explicitly forbids warrantless searches, detention absent due process and things like that. It has a few blind spots, and the rules are broken, but generally can be corrected and the culprits prosecuted. Detention in Germany for example without a jury trial and evidence of illegal activity is perfectly legal, as it is in the UK and almost every other European country so long as it protects the general welfare or some other such broad meaningless condition.

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          10 months ago

          US does shit like this all the time. Guantanamo bay ring a bell? There are still people there who haven’t been convicted of a crime.

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          10 months ago

          constitution which explicitly forbids warrantless searches

          Bullshit. I have been arrested for a warrantless search.

          It has a few blind spots, and the rules are broken, but generally can be corrected and the culprits prosecuted.

          Absolute dog shit take. Sounds like the law has been favouring you. Most aren’t so lucky.