• Entropius@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    LiDAR is essentially radar that uses light instead of sound

    Radar doesn’t use sound. It sounds like the author doesn’t know the difference between sonar and radar.

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      10 months ago

      This is why comments are so useful. I was already on the fence about viewing a site named futurism and your comment made sure I will avoid it moving forward.

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        10 months ago

        I think that’s a big qualm of mine in terms of the sources allowed here, and I suppose it will take time to weed out the trustworthy from the not.

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          10 months ago

          A lot of articles that either use that buzzword or are published by sites that have that in their name are utter garbage. i.e rediculous predictions, inaccurate headlines/content etc.

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          10 months ago

          Futurists are people who cosplay as scientists predicting stuff they have no clue about.

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      5 months ago

      Why are you misquoting the article that is not what it says

      The real quote

      LiDAR is essentially radar that uses light instead of radio waves…

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        5 months ago

        Why are you misquoting the article that is not what it says

        Why are you accusing me of something I didn’t do?

        From the bottom of the article:

        Updated to correct an error in describing how radar works.

        I quoted it correctly at the time. They just edited it after I commented.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah, it uses radio frequencies. RaDAR stands for “Radio Detection And Ranging”. It uses radio waves (usually in the microwave bandwidth) to detect things. Basically, since those radio waves are affected by the Doppler effect, you can have a computer do some math to determine the speed of whatever those waves reflected off of. Because the Doppler effect changes a wave based on how fast an object is moving relative to an observer. So if you’re a stationary observer, you can figure out how fast an object is moving relative to yourself, purely based on how much that moving object changes the waves you’re reflecting off of it.

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        10 months ago

        Every wave is affected by Doppler effect.

        When a car rushes your way, it’s a tiny bit bluer, a little bit hotter, it’s drivers’ phone is operating on a slightly higher frequency and it sounds higher. According to you.

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    10 months ago

    Literally every single day we have idiots doing Musk’s PR work for free.

    Downvote Musk spam. The billionaire doesn’t need your help ensuring his businesses stay in the 24 hour news cycle.

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    “We’re trying to have those conversations with Elon to establish what the sensors would need to do,” Baglino added. “And they were really difficult conversations, because he kept coming back to the fact that people have just two eyes and they can drive the car.”

    Yes, and people crash cars all the time Elon…

    If you want an autopilot with the failure rate of a human, then you might only need two eyes. If you want an autopilot with a near zero failure rate, you need much better telemetry data

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      Anybody else remember the now-removed Tesla blog post from 2016 arguing that FSD will require LIDAR? Idk why they’ (Elon) are so stubborn about it. It can see through fog and darkness . Add that data to their model and they would probably already be near deployment readiness of real FSD.

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        Automotive lidar costs around $500-1000 to add to a car.

        That’s it. That’s the whole reason.

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      Our heads are just loaded with sensory capabilities that are more than just the two eyes. Our proprioception, balance, and mental mapping allows us to move our heads around and take in visual data from almost any direction at a glance, and then internally model that three dimensional space as the universe around us. Meanwhile, our ears can process direction finding for sounds and synthesize that information with our visual processing.

      Meanwhile, the tactile feedback of the steering wheel, vibration of the actual car (felt by the body and heard by the ears), give us plenty of sensory information for understanding our speed, acceleration, and the mechanical condition of the car. The squeal of tires, the screech of brakes, and the indicators on our dash are all part of the information we use to understand how we’re driving.

      Much of it is trained through experience. But the fact is, I can tell when I have a flat tire or when I’m hydroplaning even if I can’t see the tires. I can feel inclines or declines that affect my speed or lateral movement even when there aren’t easy visual indicators, like at night.

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        10 months ago

        Just adding to your point, when F1 drivers were asked to play a racing sim, they could not perform like real life because they said no matter how good the sim is, it doesn’t provide the feedback of a real car.